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I've done some digging and I find this comment by Ken is a good one if you are an FM:"My old company had a team that went around and did spot checks on rooftops. The gave very little notice, and only...

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You have to leave the store managers completely out of the program. They usually do not know anything, and cannot do anything more than sign the paperwork that someone was there. If you allow the store...

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"You have to leave the store managers completely out of the program. They usually do not know anything, and cannot do anything more than sign the paperwork that someone was there." - I think they can...

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I got this from someone I respect in the contracting industry: "...You hit the nail on the head with this guy! We have had big box contracts over the years and they beat you to death every year when it...

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There seems to be a lot of real good suggestions going back and forth on this one. As a chief engineer of just one site I can't even imagine the nightmare of trying to manage maintenence contracts on...

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Here's some more feedback.... "Just tell that Xxxx this-The most common and easy trick is as simple as shutting off a  disconnect...making a phone call...have the remote monitoring service check it...

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The NFMT session on this topic in Baltimore went very well.  I hope it helped those that attended.There were a couple of additional points I wish we had time to discuss related to finding a quality...

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I think you need to examine further this warranty issue. Typically when buying most replacement parts on old equipment nobody warranties general parts at the supply house. You will have some difficulty...

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Darly:I am a contractor, not an FM.  My suppliers warranty their parts for one year, and if it fails before that it's covered.  The only exceptions are where the part has been mishandled or improperly...

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One year from the supplier is a very nice situation. I know of a national supplier that does this... but also typically their pricing is higher.

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It helps if you rarely ever return a part under warranty.  When it happens frequently with only one contractor having trouble with a particular part, the supplier should start to question the...

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Both the good contractor and the bad contractor do not want to redo repairs.When something is broke they both want to fix it to not have a hassle. NOBODY wants to go back. There is no money in going...

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Judy,Accountability is your best answer, have contractors take pictures of the numbered equipment and fill out detailed preventitive maintenance check list that includes the model and serial number of...

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Harry,You now have made the main focus of the tech to fill out a list and take a picture. This is a complete waste of time more properly spent on checking the equipment. Especially since the customer...

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Judy,   If your willing to think outside the box when it comes to preventative maintenance on your HVAC system, then I would like to share with you a proactive coating system that can be applied to the...

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Redundant central systems would be a different approach, but when considering such a mechanical system keep in mind that your facility may have many different "zones" that each have different cooling...

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Hi JDD, nice comments, but we are talking big box retail. I do agree a server room in the big box would be a separate unit (usually very small). Further you can zone central systems rather easily to...

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I realized that we were talking about big box retail.Both systems have unique details that should be considered.  Hopefully these discussions give the interested parties some points to consider.

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I also don't think many really realize the difference in quality between the larger AHU versus the packaged rooftop unit.The packaged rooftop...Has thin sheet metal, virtually no insulation, fan...

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Re: Is there such a thing as "quality control" when contracting for HVAC...

Yes, if you want cheap you can find cheap, in package units or air handlers and condensing units.  You can also find high quality package units that hold up very well and are extremely efficient.  All...

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